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Obama Supporter Says They Would Rather Die Than Defend Themselves With Gun


Here’s something I bet you didn’t know: When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, he didn’t say “Thou shalt not kill.” Correctly translated, the original Hebrew establishes that God said “Thou shalt not murder.” In other words, even God recognized that there are times when killing (as opposed to intentional murder) is appropriate, even necessary. This would come as news to one Obama supporter, who was caught on television announcing that guns are so morally wrong that they should not even be used for self-defense.

The woman made her statement while attending a small protest in Atlanta, Georgia commemorating the one year anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death. The commemoration included protests against “stand your ground,” or Castle Doctrine, laws. These laws hold that a person who feels his life is threatened does not have an obligation to retreat, but may move directly to self-defense without fear of subsequent prosecution.

Before the Trayvon Martin shooting, most Americans were only vaguely aware of “stand your ground” laws. Many were shocked to learn that George Zimmerman, even assuming he could have run away, didn’t have a legal obligation to do so under Florida law. Instead, if he had a reasonable belief that Martin was threatening his life, Zimmerman acted within the law when he fired his gun.

Unfortunately for Zimmerman because the case became a racial cause célèbre, with even the President chiming to say “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” For that reason, despite evidence showing that Martin, had pinned Zimmerman to the ground, broken his nose, repeatedly bashed his head against the pavement, Zimmerman is now being charged with Second Degree Murder.

When interviewed at the Atlanta protest, the soft-spoken, middle-aged woman, wearing a hat with President Obama’s name on it, told a local CBS reporter that “self-defense is not an option. It is not an option. ” When the reporter asked her “But what if someone is trying to kill you?” she remained unmoved. “They’ll just have to kill me.”

It would have been interesting if the reporter had asked her whether it’s appropriate for the President and his family to be surrounded by armed protection, at home, on the streets, and at schools. Given that she believes that it is never appropriate to fire a gun in self-defense, she would be hard-pressed to explain why it’s appropriate to fire a gun in defense of the President and his family.

The fact is that most anti-gun activists proponents don’t see themselves giving in quite so meekly to murder, assault, or rape. Instead, they envision alternative methods of self-defense that they’re reasonably sure will work well against someone who is threatening them.

Colorado State Rep. Joe Salazar, for example, told young women who were concerned for their safety on America’s college campuses that they should stick to safe zones or blow whistles if they felt threatened. In this way, they could avoid the risk of inadvertently shoot someone threatening them:

It’s why we have call boxes, it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at. And you don’t know if you feel like you’re gonna be raped, or if you feel like someone’s been following you around or if you feel like you’re in trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody.

In offering this advice – which assumed that women could limit their activity to safe zones or areas within ear shot of whistles – Salazar showed less imagination than the University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, Department of Safety. Even proponents of extreme gun control were taken aback by the University’s recommendation that women who feel threatened vomit or urinate on demand, or run away (“Gee, why didn’t I think of that?”):

Be realistic about your ability to protect yourself.
Your instinct may be to scream, go ahead! It may startle your attacker and give you an opportunity to run away.
Kick off your shoes if you have time and can’t run in them.
Don’t take time to look back; just get away.
If your life is in danger, passive resistance may be your best defense.
Tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.
Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone. (Emphasis added.)
Yelling, hitting or biting may give you a chance to escape, do it!
Understand that some actions on your part might lead to more harm.

Remember, every emergency situation is different. Only you can decide which action is most appropriate.

Indeed, the University came in for so much ridicule because of its “vomit” or “urinate” advice that it removed the above list from its website, leaving instead a message saying that the list had been misunderstood:
The recent circulation of this web page containing information about rape prevention at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs was taken out of context on popular social media sites.

No policy was changed by the university and no advisories were sent to students.
This page is not related to the gun control discussions now taking place in the Colorado General Assembly.
This page was created in 2006 as supplemental material for women who had completed an internationally recognized Rape Aggression Defense course offered free of charge to UCCS students.
The 10 tips were considered last resort options when all other defense methods have been exhausted.
This site was intended as a reminder for graduates of the RAD program, an intensive self defense program, and part of a larger discussion of last-resort tactics.

As a response to recent interest in the page, the Department of Public Safety has updated this page to provide additional context and information about crime prevention and the opportunity to enroll in the RAD class.

Accepting as true everything the University said to explain removing that infamous list, the fact remains that if ordinary, law-abiding citizens are disarmed, and if those citizens are not well-trained in martial arts, those ten recommendations are the only thing left in their self-defense arsenals. (And men are going to get laughed at if they try to say they’re menstruating.)

Incidentally, not everyone who attended the Trayvon Martin Memorial/self-defense protest supported total gun control. A few Second Amendment supporters showed up. One man, who was carrying a sign saying “Gun control disarms victims, not criminal[s],” told CBS news:

I think that people should have the right to defend themselves. It’s our Second Amendment right, and any sort of legislation on guns or any sort of gun control, all it’s doing is hurting the victims.


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